Artists will make art with or without money

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Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Insightful)

by nloop (665733) on Sunday March 08, @07:59AM (#27111709)

Can we get beyond the “If filesharing continues media will die!” arguement? It is wrong on so many fronts.

First of all, it’s done. Filesharing is here to stay. There is no better example of wack-a-mole. You get rid of Napster, Kazaa, and Suprnova, but there are still more networks than I care to type that are healthy. It is -not- going away through litigation. Period. Sorry RIAA.

Despite this fact the music industry is still alive! 10 years since Napster and I haven’t seen any Atlantic executive begging for change on a street corner! The members of Metallica still own mansions! Go figure! Your apocalyptic claims are simply unfounded.

Even if by some miracle every brick and mortar record/movie store ceased to exist, art still would exist. Are you familiar with the concept of an art college? I live in a city with a major one. The running joke is “I went to smart school, not art school” because you will not make money with a degree in fine arts. Sure, you can show your stuff at a gallery, someone may buy a few paintings, but you will also work in a coffee shop or some other lousy day job. Oddly enough, it doesn’t deter people! People enjoy making art! Films would still exist. I think they may actually be better without someone who’s sole concern is money overseeing their production. Example: I think Ze Frank’s year long show was superior to The Daily Show at it’s own game of leftist political comedy. No money involved. Good thing no one told him his fish was dead.

Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Interesting)

by JRGhaddar (448765) on Sunday March 08, @08:12AM (#27111795)

Art is eternal, but the means for Artists to make money is evaporating.

As you stated Art school people make less. They do have to take jobs unrelated to there passion. Why is that?

Because unfortunately there are very few ways for artists to make a decent living wage.

So why take away from the industry that helps artists make money?

Yes some people are still doing well, but there is a whole new generation that are still trying to figure out if it’s even worth it at all to pursue.

Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)

by st0rmshad0w (412661) on Sunday March 08, @10:08AM (#27112361)

I went to art school. I have made and sold artworks. You are so ignorant of reality it isn’t funny.

Art is eternal, but the means for Artists to make money is evaporating.

No it isn’t. If making money is their only concern then there are many other ways to do it, including commercial artist jobs.

As you stated Art school people make less. They do have to take jobs unrelated to there passion. Why is that?

So does pretty much everyone else, why is that? Also, how come you seem to be measuring a person’s achievements by how much money they make? How vile is that?

Because unfortunately there are very few ways for artists to make a decent living wage.

Bullshit. Be good at what you do. Pursue whatever work you need to to pay the bills and continue with your artistic pursuits. And here’s a hint for you, there are an aweful lot of non-artists who make shittier wages than the artists, most of the artists have at least some college under their belt. Artists used to have patrons, if all they wanted to do was artwork they found one.

So why take away from the industry that helps artists make money?

The only industry that helps artists make money is the one that manufactures the supplies they use. You severely misspelled “profits like a leech off an artist’s hard work with no concern or care for the creations involved”

Yes some people are still doing well, but there is a whole new generation that are still trying to figure out if it’s even worth it at all to pursue.

How is this different for ANYTHING else at any time? I’m sure at some point there were people wondering if it was worth it to go into buggywhip making, or take over the family ranch, or thousands of other professions that have waned throughout history. Try finding someone who hand-carves decorative stonework sometime, there used to be hundreds of them in any city.

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