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Re:But it is a matter of principle (Score:5, Insightful)
by Cadallin (863437) on Thursday March 13, @11:55PM (#22747814)
Sorry, I’m going to have to pull Godwin’s law here. I hope that I will articulate why it is justified.
The Bush administration have operated illegally. They have violated the law not just in spirit, but in word. They have pushed warrantless searches and wiretaps. This is not legal. They have advocated, and used, torture in the interrogation of prisoners. This is not legal. They have lied, and used said lies as an excuse to wage aggressive war. This is not legal. They have conspired to hide their actions behind a cloak of shadows, lies, and secrecy. They have refused to disclose the the extent of their actions to the duly elected agents of the People of The United States of America while under oath. This is not Legal.
International Law applies whether one agrees to it or not. As much of the top Nazi brass discovered. The Bush administration have used the same tactics: Brute Force, Fear, and a blatant disregard for law, human rights, and human dignity. Any who aid or abet such actions bears blame. They could have refused. They did not.
No. No Immunity for Traitors. No Immunity for Cowards. No Immunity for those aid the destruction of the rights and liberties of free men.
If there is to be any hope for Freedom, for Democracy, hope for any kind of legacy to leave for future generations, on these things must we stand firm.
Re:Attention: “security personel” (Score:5, Insightful)
by jollyreaper (513215) on Thursday March 13, @11:29PM (#22747680)
We would absolutely love it if you would get a tape and give it to wikileaks. Or Youtube. Or John Stewart.
Mod down? No, mod parent up. This would be fucking awesome. Bush did a little song and dance at the Washington Press Whores dinner last week, closed to the public. He was yucking it up about obstructing justice, talking about going back to the ranch and saying hi to Cheney whose standing there with all the documents he’s withholding. This is the same asshole who joked about not being able to find WMD’s, miming looking under the podium “no wmd’s here”, the same asshole who said “You are the haves and the have more’s; some call you the moneyed elite, I call you my base.”
We need to damn these fuckers with their own words. People have been deservedly killed for less; I think we can all agree that voting them out of office is a peaceable compromise.
Re:Attention: “security personel” (Score:5, Insightful)
by BAM0027 (82813) <blo@27.org> on Friday March 14, @01:01AM (#22748188)
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Nah, you can’t vote them out or impeach them. You have to wait for them to do something _really_ heinous, something that would impact a whole bunch of people.
Something worse than the 4,000 military personnel and the thousands of citizens that’ve died in Iraq.
Something worse than the civil liberties that’ve been compromised.
Something worse than the trillions of dollars that’ve been borrowed against future generations for a baseless war.
Something worse than the loss of funds to pay for education.
Nah, just wait for them to do something _really_ awful, like pay for sex.