regards
sam

=== Introduction ===
I’m a software architect for real-time assembly machines, I’ve been through many many languages in my career, and for my company I choose languages by popularity : because I can find some developers on the job market.

=== Chapter 1: Me and LISP ===
Yes, I choose the main stream languages for my company, but NO I do not like them more than LISP. In fact I personally prefer LISP over any other languages I’ve ever used professionally, and here is why, in a single word: Homoiconicity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoiconicity

So where do I use LISP? not at work as I said, but for research projects on evolutionary algorithms. Homoiconicity is way more powerful that .NET’s Reflection for instance, because it allows both self-examination and self-modification and is so natural in LISP syntax.

Also LISP, by it’s syntax, allows you to extend the language in respect to the core language syntax. This allows you to extend the language in a natural manner. (please look at my programming challenge in this post).

Do I earn money with LISP : no.
Do I think LISP is the way programming languages should have evolve : yes.
Do I think LISP is like quantum mechanics : yes, because some geniuses have found a revolutionary approach but it took them 4 decades to have the rest of the world understanding it’s core power.
Do I give an advantage to joob seekers who like LISP: yes, because they’re way smarter in their resulting Java or C# architecture.

=== Chapter 2: Programming Challenge ===
I believe that language extension is very important, and that the resulting extension should respect the language syntax.

So, here is my challenge: Extend a mainstream language (Java, C++, C# or PHP) to have an IF working with 3 states (useful in signal processing): TRUE, UNKNOWN, FALSE
But you must respect the core language syntax so that programmer don’t get confused. So with these mainstream language the 3 state IF call should look something like:
if3 (my-3-state-variable) {
//my code executed the TRUE
…
} unknown {
//my code executed the UNKNOWN
…
} else {
//my code executed the FALSE
…
}

=== Chapter 3: Challenge solution in LISP ===
Here is a standard IF call in LISP:
(if my-boolean-variable
‘(print ‘true)
‘(print ‘false))

Here is the 3 states IF definition in LISP (the solution):
(defmacro if3 (test t-case nil-case ?-case)
‘(case ,test
((nil) ,nil-case)
(? ,?-case)
(t ,t-case)))

here is the new IF3 call:
(if3 my-3-state-variable
‘(print ‘true)
‘(print ‘unknown)
‘(print ‘false))
You can see that it looks like the standard IF syntax, the language has been extended in respect to the original syntax.

I’m waiting for the mainstream languages solutions for IF3… in respect to the standard IF syntax or their originating languages.

=== Chapter 4: More language extension ===
Now, please imagine yourself extending the C# language to add the LINQ feature, how would you have performed this in C# 2.0 ??? for lispers this is strait forward (“Practical Common Lisp” Chapter 3).

This is the reason of LISP’s longevity: user language extension.
The price for longevity: parenthesis, okay I’ll pay!

=== Conclusion ===
Please, do us a favour, read at least Paul Grahm’s “On Lisp” or Peter Seibel’s “Practical Common Lisp” before criticising the probably most elegant language syntax and core set of features (not libraries, just the naked language).

“If LISP is so amazing, and if LISP has first mover advantage over anything the average programmer has ever heard of, why is it so resoundingly a bit player?”

That rings true to me.

This statement completely destroys your credibility.

You fail utterly. I am not sure if it is in understanding English or not so I will explain what the author is saying here. He says basically that at one time there was a huge gap in the expressivity of LISP vs C++, however over time the addition of features to C++ has made this gap much smaller. He at no time says that C++ is less expressive than LISP. He furthermore respectfully requests that anyone who takes exception with this statement provide an example to illustrate their point. You, like a pansy, have of course failed to do so. This is of course because you can’t.
As for the rest of you the comments to this post have been very amusing. None of you have made any attempt to tackle the main point which is, “If LISP is anything more than a toy then why does no one use it?”

C++ = algorithm and container library
Ruby = Rails
Dojo = COMET
PHP = ?

Another thing that Lisp is missing is a code management system.